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ceramic cook top
Kelle
isk@adelphia.net
04/04/03
I am moving into a house which has a ten year old ceramic cook top stove. Are there certain types of pots and pans which should not be used?
Can I use my old pots and pans including my favorite cast iron skillit?
ellen

04/04/03
Hi, Kelle,

If I were you, I would start saving for my excellent new gas range ASAP. In the meantime, most pots except glass ones can be used, none of them heat up too well and the heat is even harder to regulate than an electric (can you tell I don't like to cook on them?) It IS OK as a giant crockpopt sort of thing...

Ellen

ellen

04/04/03
Here are basic points for using your smooth top oven:

Do not "slide" pots or pans around on the ceramic top, you must pick up the pots or pans and place them where you want them. Sliding them can cause cuts or scrapes on the glass.

Always use proper pan size for the cooking area you are using...to determine proper pan size, it would be the size of the pan compared to the size of the cooking area, always try to match the pan as close as possible to the size of the burner.

Never operate the cooking areas without having a pan on them.

Never allow a pan or pot to boil dry.

Always keep utensil handles turned inwards towards the stove, not outwards where they can be bumped.

Do not leave food or utensils in the oven during self cleaning cycle

NEVER COOK ON A BROKEN RANGE TOP, if your top is cracked or broken contact your service dept.
immediately.

Pans that have a uneven bottom or are warped or "grooved" do not work as well as smooth bottom pans, and will tend to cook slower and in a uneven manner.

renee

07/26/03
i have a new electric glass top range. i understand that the best pots to use are stainless steel with a flat bottom. The appliance store says I can use pots that have a flat disc like bottom. However, the salesperson in the cookware department says this is not correct. Many of todays pots do have this "disc-like" feature on the bottom. Can is use a pot with this flat bottom, no rimmed feature?
ellen

08/07/03
Renee,

The consumer service number in the warranty papers of your new range will tell you exactly what they recommend- this is outside my personal experience. Hope it works for you- Ellen

Danielle

09/18/03
I called the manufacturer (Amana) when I first purchased my smooth top range (4 years ago)they recommended Calphalon pans. I love them - they heat evenly, and are sturdy (not teflon coated) my only dislike is the weight of the pans. I wouldn't use anything else.

I love having a smooth top, I do agree with Ellen, that as far as cooking itself goes, the gas ranges are the best, but if you appreciate a clean range, with low fuss maintenaince - the smooth top is the way to go. Another tip on using them - never place something hot from the oven on top of it - it may crack.

Roxanna
Lostrocs@NETZERO.net
11/26/03
Glass pots and pans
I'm looking for pyrex cookware(pots and pans) about 8 years ago my husband had bought me a set. I need new ones. I can not find them anywhere. Can you help me?
Karen
w2sweets@hotmail.com
12/12/03
I am becoming a slave to my new deluxe white ceramic top Frigidare range. Everytime I cook I have to clean the burners and sometimes they are really a mess. I use the special cleaner recommended but it's a huge job getting them clean sometimes. I find myself getting our the old electric frying pan just to avoid having to clean the burners on the range. Is there something that I'm doing wrong? Any hints out there because my elbow grease has about run dry!
donna
deaster@canada.com
12/15/03
glass pots and pans
Hi!I'm looking for pyrex Glass Pots and pans.I got a set of those and i want to buy a new ones and i couldnt find it anywhere.I just wondering if you could help me?
karen
w2sweets@hotmail.com
12/23/03
Donna and Roxanna, for Pyrex Cookware, especially the Visions glass pans, look on eBay. I just found 41 listings just typing Pyrex cookware into the search. I'm still looking for hints for maintaining my white ceramic top range..where is Heloise when I need her!
Diane
dbeagle@moment.net
01/13/04
Hi.I'm having the same problem getting the right pots and pans.My husband is upset because I have the new black glass top range and have to use the electric fry pan to cook until I can find the correct cookware.Just as I think I've found the right brand,I read something that is confusing.Calphalon was suggested by someone on line,but there are so many types,I don't know which one is right.Not too many seem to actually say "smooth bottom",and I'm not certain what anodized cookware is.Can this be used without scratching the top? I really want the non-stick fry pans. Any help would be appreciated.Would really like brand names and types of correct cookware. Thanks
Mary S. Hill
Marylouisehill4@aol.com
01/15/04
Frigidare range with self-cleaning oven
When using the self-cleaning oven, scorch marks were left on the enamel finish. I tried a cleanser that was not abrasive and it won't get rid of the scorch marks. What will? Do you know?
Marty
apart1@pacifier.com
01/26/04
Jenn-air Black Ceramic Glass Top Range. Wat a pain to clean! The burners get a ring around the outside of the heating area that is such a pain to clean. It is a one year old unit. I got a B&D scum buster to help me clean it every time it is used. My guy is so sick of me on his case cause he doesn't get it clean. I am constantly cleaning it with about 5 different brands of ceramic cooktop cleaners. This does not seem right. Too much work. Where's my old stove.
ellen

01/31/04
Life is too short. You can replace it for a few hundred dollars, MUCH cheaper than therapy or a divorce!
Jeanie Hansen
jeanie@mathieu.org
02/04/04
I am about to replace my ceramic cooktop for the SECOND time! Made the mistake (twice) of using a cookware that has the copper sandwiched between stainless on the bottom. On med-high heat the copper melted and bonded to the cooktop. I love not having to clean drip pans below burners - but I am beginning to think I've made a huge mistake with ceramic top!
Like others, I am wondering what brand cookware to purchase.
Marie Giugno
mag42@aol.com
02/09/04
We recently bought a Black ceramic top range and Ilove the appearance. However, I can't seem to get it clean with just soap and water. It always seems to have a brownish film on the burner when I am done cooking and I have to use the special cream to try to get it clean. I rub and rub and I get most of it out, but not all. Is there a regular household cleanser I can use without scratching the surface to clean it or must I always use the cream made for it?
Carol Freeman
cfreeman@localnet.com
02/12/04
I just bought "Emerilware" (set of 10 pieces). However, someone just mentioned today that I cannot use a pan with copper in it on my glass top stove. Emerilware has a triple-thick bottom layer of stainless steel, aluminum and copper center for optimum cooking performance.
Does anyone know anything about this?
Terri
dasher74@aol.com
02/15/04
My ceramic cook top is 3 years old...I have similar problems cleaning it, and finding cookware. I bought one Revere ware pot to "test it " before I bought the whole set. It has the disc bottom and is made of aluminum. The sales person said it was new and she didnt know how it would work on ceramic. So far, I like it. One hint she gave me was to NEVER put a hot pot into the sink and run water in it...will easily warp the bottom. I usually leave it on the stove and pour a cup of hot water in it to start loosening any stuck on food. Am now looking for the full set online, but I can't seem to find it. Havent seen it in the stores.
Angie Scott
panma@usa.net
02/19/04
I have had my range about 6 months, and I really like it. (By the way, I use Analon cookware and it works great!) Per my instructions, I never clean the glass range top with anything but the cream cleaner recommended by the manufacturer. However, my husband insists on cleaning it with soap and water and wants to know how soap and water can hurt it. Does anyone know?
Barb
longislandmom4@aol.com
02/23/04
Just bought a frigidaire smooth top range, and having problems cleaning it after only using it twice!After reading what you people have to say on here about them, i am wondering if they will take it back!! lol...Ellen,along with a couple of spots that won't come out, are some "boiled over" water spots.is there ant way to get rid of these spots? Thank You in advance
Lana
lplord@fone.net
02/26/04
I just love my GE cooktop. Have not ever had a problem cleaning it. Just use the cream type cleaner, I get it at walmart.It's called Weiman's cook top cleaner. Wipe it on and wait a minuite and wipe of with a papertowel. To get off the stuck on stuff the cream does't remove I use a razor blade scraper and gently move over the spot. Sometimes I have to use a little pressure, but it comes out beutiful every time. I am having a problem thought finding cookware that works well. I have been told not to use cast Iron, so I keep a hot plate handy for that.
Roxanna
Lostrocs@Netzero.net
02/29/04
Karen
Have you tried Bon ami cleanser on your stove top? It's been around since 1886 and it's not a harsh cleaner. I use it on ceramic bake ware that is badly scorched or burnt.
garry
seiger@adelphia.net
03/18/04
how much is it to replace a flat top?
Rachel
madpenpal1955@yahoo.com
04/06/04
We will be moving the 1st of May to a (lease) home with a glass top range. I have looked at a lot of cookware sites and rarely could find products that stated they could be used on this appliance. What I did find was a lot that said, "NOT FOR USE WITH..."
This group has provided me with many of the questions I had.
Now, I just have to find out if my OLD (about 20 years) Farberware has copper in the layers.
ellen

04/06/04
As far as I know, the problems with soap and water cleaning are, that it doesn't work too well, and also, making sure you get every speck of the soap off before heating. Otherwise, you get a really hard to remove burnt in scum...
Sandy
sfclark73@aol.com
04/22/04
I love my smooth top range, I have the cooks essentials hard annodized cookware, they cook evenly and heat up quickly. The only problem I have, is that 3 of the burners have a brown ring on the outside edge, I can't get it off.
ellen

04/22/04
I haven't tried this, but it occurs to me that putting on a layer of whitening toothpaste, cover with a damp towel and rub off in the morning, might take the brown mark off. It worked on the formica in my bathroom...
Rosann
rosiereds_2000@yahoo.com
04/28/04
I am moving to Redmond, WA and I'll have a smooth-top range for the first time in my life, having always cooked on a gas stove. I'm about to buy new pots and pans, and I was looking at Emerilware, but I wonder if this is the best kind to buy. I'm sure Calphalon pans are wonderful, but they are frightfully expensive and I'm trying to live in the real world. Can anybody give me some advice on this? Thanks!
ellen

04/29/04
The least expensive source for new caphalon that I know of, is the "Tuesday Morning" close out chain. Half off or more. Maybe you could get one or two pieces for your own housewarming present- Ellen
linda
bigbarlake@hotmail.com
05/01/04
I have a Maytag black ceramic electric range. The inside (middle) of my burners are turning white. Does anyone else have this problem.
Janice
JoeJan@aol.com
05/01/04
ceramic cook top burn stain
I made a big mistake this week. I allowed a pot of beans to boil dry on my ceramic range top. I have not been able to clean the eye. The eye has a black colr and now it has an ugly gray stain on it. Is there any way to restore it to its natural color?
Anne
r.bleskie@sympatico.ca
05/02/04
I just purchased a new ceramic top stove by Frigidare. What type of glaseware can I use on top of the burners. Also how do you get the brown rings off after using it.
David
bdpeters@bright.net
05/03/04
I receive a steady stream of complaints from my lady, a serious cook, about my black glass electric cooktop. The surging of the burner (on and off)as it heats causes her fits and many burned sauces, etc. I don't have the problems she has, but I wonder if there has been an improvement since 1996 in this area, or if our new Cuisinart cookware is the culprit. It may have a copper lamination in the bottom.
Mary Waldrop
mpdw2@wmconnect.com
05/06/04
My Frigidaire smooth top is 30 yrs. old and the top is now getting "burned" look. What can I use to clean/restore the "white" again?
ellen

05/09/04
Mary, your cooktop has already outlasted the usual top by more than double. You may want to start saving for your new top.
Sara

05/10/04
I just want to share some advice with everyone who has a ceramic top stove. In my quest to find out how to clean mine, I was advised to use vinegar to maintain the shine and get off tough water spots and rings. I tried it and so far it works great. I still use the recommended cream cleanser on a daily basis. I just use the vinegar once or twice a week to give it a boost. Hope this helps some of you.
Anita LaRosa
anita0357@msn.com
05/12/04
I just got my Kenmore smooth top range today. Before I even turn it on any suggestions?I am so confused on the cookware..what to buy?
audrey cooke
cookecstl@ime.net
05/19/04
I'm about to get a new ceramic top range, but my cookware is 'good old revere' (50 yrs. old)
and I've been told that copper bottoms is a no-no.....???? or my old favorite cast iron fry pan that nothing ever sticks to???? Must I learn to cook all over again???
Maybe I should stick to a coil stove, or now learn to cook on gas??
Bill

05/24/04
How do I convince my wife that gas is the way to go and that is not a safty hazard. She wants a class top it sounds like that might be a big mistake?
ellen

05/24/04
Bill,
Do you have gas for anything else such as the water heater? The newest gas stoves have electronic ignitions, so there is no open gas pilot, which makes them even safer than the water heaters!
As far as cooking, a gas stove top is the very best for heat control, etc. It really has the best and fastest heat regulation. If your wife has never cooked on gas, consider renting a vacation cabin for a week that has a gas range; it will speak for itself!
Fire is just as likely the electric or ceramic. As you can see from this thread, you become a cleaning slave to a cerramic cook top- Ellen
Mary
mpdw2@wmconnect.com
05/28/04
Sara,
Thanks so much for the vinegar tip as I have tried it twice and the "eyes" are much lighter! They look almost as good as the back 2 (which have used only rarely.

Very good hint.

Charlayne

06/15/04
I just got a Whirlpool Glass top range and was looking through the book. Got confused about what cookware so I called Whirlpool customer service. They said anything but glass pots and pans. They even said copper is fine as long as it is smooth bottomed? (I have copper disc Revere cookware that I just love and don't want to have to get rid of it but have read in places on this site that copper can melt and ruin the glass top) So, what to do? Whirlpool says ok but then, it is my money if they are wrong.

Any suggestions/brands of cookware please!
Thanks
Charlayne

ellen

06/16/04
You write them a letter, keep a copy, in wehich you say I called and asked about x, your rep said this is appropriate under my warranty on model 123. If this information is incorrect or incomplete please reply by return mail. Unless I hear from you, I will be doing x.

Then if something goes wrong, you can small claims them under your warranty. Then it is their money!

Writing a memo like this where a phone call is the only contact you have had is ALWAYS wise.

Shirley
panessa@adelphia.net
06/16/04
Help..I boiled over a pot on my glass top, forgot it & it burned right into the glass. Is there any way of removing this stain? I have used the recommended glass cleaner which hasn't touched it.
Greta
gcwcpa@charter.net
06/16/04
My new Kenmore Ceramic Top was delivered today.
The directions told me to wash the top with the cleaner before the first use. I wonder if this protects the finish in anyway and makes cleanup easier. The first time I used it, water boiled over onto the surface leaving those brown rings. Once cooled, I used more cleaner and it did clean right up. I have All-Clad stainless cookware and some pots are flat and sit proper on the cooktop while others seem ever so slightly warped, and that make them almost unusable.

My cookware was a gift from my in-laws and was very expensive for them to buy and I cannot believe I'm going to have to stop using these over this relatively 'inexpensive' cooktop.

Help!

sonali

07/01/04
I have frigidare ceramic cooktop. the coating of one of the cooking surface has come off. can someone tell me how to restore it?
ellen

07/01/04
Dear Shirley, Greta and sonali, I am so sorry to hear about you disasters but can only suggest asking the manufacturers about repairs. These issues are part of life with ceramic cook tops (have I mentioned how responsive GAS burners are?)

sonali, I have been told the stovetop should not be used if even one of the burners is exposed.

Here is a hint for the needy about not boiling dry. Specialty kitchen stores have glass pot watchers or special glass marbles, you put them in and if the water boils away, they clatter before it is completely gone. It might nbe wirth it to prevent warped pots and melted burners.

sandy

07/12/04
White smooth cook top ususally cleans up ok. after a little hard pressure and a soft dishrag, but now have what looks like a scorch ( kinda grey on the out side of one of the rings)kinda resembles a thumb print. the surface is smooth and the stain refuses to budge.) what happened? I am very methodical about cleaning after each use and until now have had no problems or incidents.( use the recomended cleaner) Stain seems here to stay and appliance is pretty new. Noticed the white is starting to look a little grey in spots all over..is it my pans?
Bought this house with whirlpool appliances...
old owners left all warranty stuff for me.......is the 5 year warranty still good for me? Help don't like the big ugly spot! Nobody seems to know what kind of pans to buy and not excited about having to dump my old set.Are the warranties transferrable? Got a whole kitchen full of them.
daphnepnw
daphnepnw@comcast.net
07/12/04
Our black ceramic cooktop is just over 7 yrs old and today when we turned on the back burner to HI the cooktop cracked diagonally.
I'd like to know if someone has information on where to start looking for a replacement and also an idea of the cost factor.
Thanks
Julie
ibookgrrl@yahoo.com
07/21/04
Hi,

I just got a new Amana smooth top range delivered today (Weds.) On Saturday, I had bought myself an All Clad double griddle. But now I find that I am not supposed to use pans that are bigger than the burner size. Plus, the griddle has kind of a raised middle part -- definitely not flat!

What should I do?

ellen

07/23/04
I am not familiar with the griddle. The reason for the pot-size rule is, the hot utensil resting on the non-burner part can discolor it- see ALL the cleaning complaints above. So you have to decide about what you will tolerste in the appearance department... or buy yourself a nice plug in double size nonstick electric griddle...
David
zionx432@hotmail.com
07/25/04
Wow, I wish I had read all the cleaning complaints before I had bought the glass electric cooktop. I stumbled on this forum because I too was becomming a slave to the cleaning process. I was hoping to find some magic cookware that would prevent the markings from forming while cooking. Anyway, I have not come accross any postings that are clear on exactly what cookware to buy. If you have a make, model and location of purchase please let me know.

For now I will just keep cleaning; however, I would like to share my lastest experience. I cleaned my cooktop about 1 week ago. All four burner had stuff stuck on them. It took about an hour of polishing and resulted in a hugh blister on my finger. I cleaned it again today and it only took 5 minutes. The difference is I went down to the hardware store, looked for a buffing pad that resembled my finger, found a felt tip dremel attachment, bought it, came home and clean the stove. It worked great. Not ever expiermented with this before, I used the slowest speed and proceded with caution. I will advise to cover your contact area by cuping your free hand over the tip. The polish will splatter and it is much faster to clean off your hand than the tile, spice rack, knife rack, etc. I don't know if I will reuse the tip, since it now will have dried polish on it. But they are cheap and I think I'll just keep a dozen in stock. Good luck.

ellen

07/26/04
Hi, David,

Thanks for sharing the creative cleaning idea! For my non-handy readers, a Dremel is a small hand drill/ tool for jewelry making and for fine woodworking and model building, sort of like the drill your dentist uses. It comes with LOTS of interchangeable tips for drilling, buffing, etc.

I wonder if a plastic container could have a hole cut in it and be used to make the skirt or cup to catch the flying polish?

One of our readers above has had success with the Analon flat bottom pots and pans.

ellen

07/26/04
Sandy

Most major appliances that are built in, have the warranty that transfers to the new owner if the house is sold. If you have the paperwork on the appliances it will probably tell you. If you know where they were purchased, the sellers might be able to help. Or you can call the manufacturer, but you may have to be persisitent and keep calling back until someone helps. (Don't take no for an answer and keep track of who you called and what they said.)

Also, many home sales have an insurance coverage, sort of like the lemon law for cars, that covers hidden problems with plumbing, appliances etc - this depends on your state and your mortgage/ title company.

Ruffian
littlek@culver.org
07/31/04
I am in the market for a new stove and was sold on the ceramic cook top but after reading all these 'tough to clean' stories, I am no longer sure about getting one.

I have 2 questions, is there any brand that you would NOT recommend and is the black colored ceramic easier to keep clean than the white top?

ellen

08/01/04
They are a cleaning challenge, both colors have disadventages. But if you really like to cook, they are a cooking challenge! No more stir fries, etc.

Please borrow a kitchen with one and try it before you buy. Ellen

Jon

08/02/04
I have had a Frigidaire cooktop for 2 years now and it can be a pain to clean some times. Though I wouldnt trade it for my old coil top electric or my previous gas top.

The bigest advantage is that after all the hard work to clean it, it actually looks clean. Every time. I'm pretty lazy so I dont clean it as regularaly as I should. When I do become a slave to the cooktop it looks good. All the time. When I dont I am rewarded with burnt on rings and lots of elbo grease.

There is not magic bullet, but I have found some cleaners work better on some things than others, so I try a few on my problem areas. Some times the only option is to try something a little more abrasive or a razor blade, I havent managed to damage mine yet.

If you want to save yourself a lot of work just make sure that when you do have boil overs or other spills that you clean it up as soon as you are done and it is cool enough to touch.

Laurence
jacobs@costbook.com
08/03/04
My wife, fed up with cleaning under the electric coils on our cooktop and having the burners not spring back to make a flat surface, has decided on a ceramic top to replace it.

After reading all the cleaning tales, I wonder if this is the best choice after all.

We have gas connections, so that option is open. But she just loves the look of those shiny new, unstained, smooth cooktops, and thinks that's how it'll be forever.

Is cleaning them really that bad? My wife boils food over the saucepan all the time, which is why she's so often trying to clean under the burners. She thinks the new smooth cooktop will mean just mopping up, like on the countertop. Not really so?

Any advice before we spend some big bucks getting one?

Laurence

ellen

08/04/04
What the reader just above said, applies 200% to your situation. If your chief cook boils over all the time, s/he is using too small or thin/cheap of pots and/or too high of heat. You will probably have to buy new pots anyway if you get a ceramic, so why not try buying the pots first? Get skillets 10" or more across, preferable the deeper ones that are becoming available now, which look a little like a wok. Smallest saucepan at least 2 quarts (3 is better) and heavy- all the little aluminum pans that wouldn't hurt if you got beaned with them, are not really fit for serious cooking. IMO, of course.

Electric ranges really do heat up twice as fast on high, but you should turn them down to medium before you put the pan on- Or if you are really trying to do temp, turn one on to medium and the other to hiogh and move the pan to medium as soon as it begins to simmer.

As many years as I have ben cooking, I flipped a whole egg out of a (too small frying pan just last week of course it broke and ran straight into the drip pan and on down into the mysterious nether regions of the range. No fun on the clean up.

Sharon

08/05/04
I have had a GE ceramic cook top for several yeas that I love. Cleanup is a breeze with Weiman's cleamer, and a razor blade. This can be purchased at Wal-Mart. I noticed Lana, 2/26/04 also has a GE that she loves. Maybe the problem the other people are having is because of the brand they bought. I really have cooked on them all and would not have anything else at this point. I have not gone out and bought fancy or expensive pots either. Am using what i have and replacing them as I need.
Ron

08/05/04
Have a 2 year old Kenmore w/cer cooktop. Front large burner is already coming through surface. Can feel burner. The oven also allows steam/water up through back surface in front of control panel pooling onto surface which can cause problems with cook surface on rear left burner. This same problem has caused finish problems with the panel just underneath - I wiped the other day and the paint has come away to expose immediate surface, I'm suposing it will rust now. The surrounding area is quite rough to touch and will scrape away easily with just a push of a thumb. Called Sears about all this today and they say that the one year warranty is over and that I can buy an extended for "cosmetic"; I asked if that included the top surface wearing through (top burners worn through the surface just from cleaning) and they replied as long as the stove continued to work it was cosmetic. Humph . . . How long should I continue to use the surface until something happens? Would it then be a safety problem?

Love the cleanability of the product, but maybe one shouldn't use it. Also noticed a reduced amount of heat when needed, always had used electric coils before. We don't have gas here so that option doesn't work unless I have propane delivered.

Had a stove prior, not even an option these days to buy, but lasted until now, 1975. This one acts as though it may be booted out within 3 years. I'm not impressed!!!! So unimpressed that I'll probably buy a $200 electric coil unit next time assuming that all are poorly made! I'll just keep replacing with least costly because they all are poorly made.

Hmmm, maybe quality assurance areas have been cut due to economics. Watch the food you buy intensely - now would be a good time to pay attention.

Leslie

08/10/04
Well, we just moved into a house that has a ceramic/glass top. And let me tell you, I absolutely despise the stovetop - so does my husband. Out of the 22 pots and pans we have - all calphalon or Mauviel (very expensive copper that we received as wedding gifts last year) - only 5 or 6 will FIT the burner size. I think that is LUDICROUS. I will NOT dump my cookware just because some engineering twit decided this was how it's going to work.

I used to be a software quality engineer and I always went after engineers who decided they knew better and force the customers to bend to their demand. We need to be more demanding as customers and tell GE and other manufacturers of ceramic/glass stovetops off when they say you must use this size pan of this type of material, smooth bottom, blah de blah. LUDICROUS!!!! Don't put up with it!

As for the cleaning, we haven't had any problems.... YET.

Anyone know how to override the stupid software in the product that shuts the burner off every time you take the pan off the heat?

Even though we might be moving in a few months AGAIN because of a lucrative job offer, we are considering putting an ad in the paper to get rid of it and buy a real electric range.

jo
joettemorden@yahoo.com
08/10/04
Some friends were using our Lake Home for a week and afterwards when I went there was a scorch mark on the New (3 yrs. old) formica countertop. It is about the size of a coffee cup (circular). They swear they didn't do it, and I hate to have them pay to replace the entire section. Does anyone know what I can do to reduce the appearance of this? I had my husband try "Mr. Eraser" but he was quite gentle and I don't see any improvement. The countertop is multi-colored beige and white.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Many Thanks.
Audrey
aseibertrn@hotmail.com
08/11/04
when I use the self-cleaning oven it leaves scorch marks on the enamel between the oven door and cooktop. What can I do to remove them? Thanks.
Ron
ronjack@shaw.ca
08/16/04
I don't know what some of you are doing to your cooktops. I have a Whirlpool ceramic top range that gets used every meal and is still in almost new condition. I used stainless steel pots with copper sandwich as well as Visions and cast iron.

I do not 'baby' this cooktop, or clean it as often as some people think I should, but when it comes to cleanup the following works well.

a. Use a good sharp razor type knife to scrape the majority of the spills off. No chipped blades, and they're so cheap you can toss them each use.

b. Use one of many cleaners designed for these tops to do a final clean/polish.

Only complaint - they heat up fast like gas, but take forever to cool down so don't use any more heat than necessary. (ie if the recipe says bring to a boil then simmer - move to a cooler element or remove from heat while letting it cool.) This will also reduce damaged pots and spills.

sue

08/17/04
my front burner of the ceramic top does not work and the indicator light stays on.
How do you repair the burners and has this ever happened to you.
kym

08/17/04
I use CERAMA BRYTE on my smooth top. It works perfectly and I still have no stains. We've had it now for almost 2 years. It also works great on bathtub stains!!! I purchased it at Lowe's.
Craig

08/20/04
I'm a gas guy, but been cooking on a smoothtop for a while now. Ditto Ron's suggestion. The stove is my Mother-in-Law's, and had horrible burn rings around each burner. I used cerama-brite and got as much as I could off, then took a wet sponge and soaked a ring overnight, and scrubbed a bit more. THEN I broke out the razor scraper and very carefully scraped the last of the crud from each of the burners. I found a spray can of ceramic cleaner at home depot (don't recall the name offhand, black label/cap though) and it reminds me of a normal oven cleaner product. Spray it on and it kinda foams up a bit. I hit the burners once a week with that spray and be sure to clean up any spills ASAP. Haven't had the razor out since I cleaned it originally, (3+ months ago). Since the new house we're building didn't offer gas as an option, we're going smoothtop and I'll be getting a case of the spray cans!
ellen

08/20/04
We are getting some great cleaning suggestions- thanks!

Sue, you cannot replace a single burner, and the manufacturers are pretty serious about NOT using a cooktop with a defective burner due to fire risk. If you are renting, the landlord needs t=po replace. Otherwise, please have your cooktop checked by a real repairperson- you may be able to disconnect and turn off the single burner. But you nee to repalce ASAP>

Bob

08/20/04
Can you use T-Fal on glass top stoves?
Karen

08/21/04
I have owned a Frigidaire black ceramic top range for almost two years, and have never had a problem cleaning it until recently. There is a spot on one of the burners that is discolored. It's the size of a thumbprint. The white specks (of the burner) are dark gray rather than white. I'm not sure what has caused this. I have not spilled any food onto the burner. Does anyone have a suggestion for removing this stain?
Barbara
bar0329@yahoo.com
08/23/04
Does anyone out there know of anyone that makes a cover or mat, for the top of my "Glasstop" stove? I've checked everywhere, no luck. I just got this thing and after reading all of these comments, I wish I hadn't got it. I thought a mat,(I would like a silicone one), might save some scratches, wear & tear,etc., when it's not in use! I got a 7" silicone potholder from Betty Crocker.com, that I use under my spoon holder, but I would like a big one. Thanks
judi
judifl@verizon.net
08/28/04
am moving shortly. i presently own a black ceramic top (my 2nd) and love it. i just ordered a ge convenction oven with white ceramic top. have a week to change my mind. is it any harder to keep clean than the black? have had no problem with the black and use aluminum clad pans that i bought in early 60's.
Barbara
bar0329@yahoo.com
09/06/04
My sister-in-law has a white glass top and she said hers in yellowing and she can't get it to look bright and white again. I have a black top and I would never buy one again, but it's easier to clean since I tried Davids(7/25/04) suggestion and used my Dremel tool on it. Now clean up takes couple minutes instead of 1/2 hour. I will try anything that makes clean-up easier. As for cookwear, I've used my old stuff, everything from 1942 pressure cooker, Revere copper bottems, T-Fal and even Corning Ware. No problems yet.
Brenda
ramseybg@yahoo.com
09/08/04
Boy, what an eye opener. I just got my Frigidaire white glass top range. Most of my cookware is Chantal. Some of the pots are larger and some smaller than the ring. I have a 13" chantal pan - can I still use this? I am going in to Pacific Sales tomorrow and after reading all the wonderful input on this site, I think I am going to exchange it for a coil where I can use all my pots/pans and my cast iron! Comments?
Mary Lou
mlou1@airmail.net
09/09/04
I have a relatively new ceramic top stove and loathe it. Just for the reason's mentioned above. I purchased because I am on Oxygen and felt the gas (which I love) was too risky. I do clean my stove top after every meal and since I cook three meals a day, I am forever cleaning. This was not what Iwas led to beleive before purchasing. Take some of the advice above and think very long and hard before investing $1000 into a piece of equipment that will have you loosing your religion daily. Mary Lou
kathy

09/11/04
help i burned my tea pot paint right into my glass top ceramic stove burner finish...now there is a divet the size of a dime baked right in (looks like a scrambled egg)will i have to replace the whole stove top? threw the tea pot out got some gingo biloba
Bev

09/12/04
I really do not like cleaning these tops. The recommended cleaner does not help and I hesitate to use a razor..what are other options???
Donna

09/12/04
I have a six month old Frigdaire black ceramic top stove. I have been using Weiman Glass Cook top Cleaner (which was given to me as a sample with the stove) since day one. I have had spill overs, plastic burned on, and an occasional sliding pan, and it still looks brand new. I feel that by cleaning daily and immediately after it cools it leaves almost a protective finish. (I even clean it on the days I don't use it.) I've heard that there is a special cleaner especially for black tops. I have never it in stores. Is there such a cleaner?
Lori

09/13/04
I've been using a Maytag black ceramic cook top for over 2 years now, and it's been absolutely fantastic.

I've used cheap T-Fal pans, nice Calphalon pans, even made gravy in my huge roasting pan on top of the stove, and loved it. Temperature control doesn't seem to ben an issue. Heavy-bottomed pans (like the Calphalon ones) heat evenly and cook evenly. I've never given a thought to whether the pans are smooth or ridged. Ridged bottoms "hiss" a little but cook just fine.

Clean up is a breeze. I use a damp paper towel first to wipe up basic "crud," squirt on some ceramic cooktop cleaner (bought at WalMart) and wipe down the surface with another damp paper towel. Buff dry with a clean kitchen towel and it's done! Beautiful, clean, shiny . . . If there's a particularly stubborn spill, I use a damp nylon "scrubby" sponge (came with the range) and some extra cleasner to scrape up the spill, then clean as normal.

Compared to the *awful* chore of trying to keep the burner pans clean on my old electric coil range (even when they were wrapped in foil), I'll take the ceramic cooktop any day!

Jenna

09/14/04
So glad I stumbled onto this discussion when looking for information about ceramic smooth-top stoves! We've just moved into a home with one we know nothing about but the gray-ish burners, black background, and brand: Kenmore. No clue how old it is (looks older) and the model number's not visible. We've already discovered that we can't use the wok anymore, but are trying to adjust to what is for us a strange new stove. Any suggestions? Functions we need to test? Cleaners to use? What's this about coatings? All help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much.
Brenda
ramseybg@yahoo.com
09/14/04
Well I decided to KEEP my Frigidair ceramic-top stove. I have been using the Weimans cleaner and a friend said she uses "Barkeep's Friend". Another friend bought a razor and said her 20 year old cooktop looks like new. Yes, you do need to clean after every cooking session - I joke and say that I keep the stovetop cleaner than I kept my kid's asses when they were young!
I am successfully using my beloved Chantal Cookware and am anxious to try my Abelskiver pan one day. I am so anxious to clean I stand around waiting for the top to cool down. Thanks for all the input.
Len
leonard.getz@dy4.com
09/15/04
My wife does some canning. On the canner label is written, "do not use on a glass top range". Does anyone know of a canner that can be used on a glass top or am I going to have to buy a hot plate or something similar.
Susan

09/15/04
Okay... does anybody know if you REALLY have to replace the glass top if it cracks? We didn't know you couldn't can on one of these stoves, and came downstairs to find a big crack right across one of the burners. Is it a safety issue with the burners, or just a cutting hazard/cosmetic problem?
That's the most expensive jar of peaches I've ever come across.
Brenda
ramseybg@yahoo.com
09/15/04
Black/brown spots. Before I used my ceramic cooktop, I made sure all of my pans were meticulously clean. Seems like each time I cook something, the burner area is left with brown spots which can be cleaned up with the cleanser. Is perhaps the cleanser "burning" under the pan? Does this happen each and every time? I think I will clean the top with soapy water and see if that helps. Suggestion?
Jim

09/17/04
My 89 year old mother is getting ready to move into a new home with a supplied GE ceramic top stove. She prefers gas, but is used to electric, and is now concerned that she won't be able to use her beloved pressure cooker on this "new" type stove... Any comments from anyone? Thanks.
Barbara
bar0329@yahoo.com
09/18/04
Jim;
I have a very heavy, old pressure from 1942 and I use it on my glass top with no problems. I found you can use just about anything but a cast iron skillet. Good luck.
ellen

09/19/04
Jim and others,

Remember there are very excellent hot plates that can be an appropriate supplement for people who have smooth tops. Get a good one (for example, at a restaurant supply store) and you can still have your wok, canner or pressure cooker without risking cracking your expensive smooth top.

Tildy

09/20/04
I just received a 1979 Amana 3 + 1 Cooking Center with microwave, white flat top stove, and self-cleaning oven. I used it a lot and cleaned up with Corningware cleaner as it is a Corningware surface. The whole thing is in mint condition except for a slight discoloration on the rear burner. The area above that burner, which is the underside of the microwave, has also apparently peeled from things boiling too much. I am SO tired of cleaning coil burners and drip pans that I am willing to give this a try. I figure my next stove will be a black flat top, maybe without the microwave above it. I've never had a gas stove and don't plan on it. Except for the burners on this one staying hot for a while, it seems to work fine. But then, it took burners on a standard electric a while to cool off, I just never stood around with my hand over them waiting. You MUST let the stove top cool off before attempting to clean, that is only common sense.
Alisa
azollinger@forsgren.com
09/21/04
I have been using a ceramic stove top for two years without incident. However, after purchasing a pressure cooker, I am finding that my stove will not work for this type of cooking. Please advise.
coralee
coralee_jacobsen@hotmail.com
09/21/04
Hi. I understand from some of these comments, that if I get a flat top stove, I can't use my wok anymore. Can someone please tell me why this would be a problem? Thanks.
Ellen

09/22/04
These stoves heat by conduction- surfaces have to actually touch- so the true round bottom Wok doesn't touch. The whole burner keeps heating up the surface, no pot to pull away the heat, CRACK. Also, you can't get the wok hot enough fast enough to make a good stir fry plus the only way to reduce the heat is to take the pan off the burner- the burners don't cool down fast enough, either. Just as for the pressure cooker, you need to get a top quality electric or gas hot plate to supplement your smooth top if you want to keep wokking along..
coralee
coralee_jacobsen@hotmail.com
09/22/04
Ellen, thanks for your reply about the wok. My wok has a small flat bottom, not a rounded bottom. Would that work, or is it still not worth trying? By saying "crack" does that mean that the top can actually crack if it heats up without a pot on it?
ellen

09/23/04
If your flat place is very close to the size of the burner, you could try it, but if you really like Wok cooking you will probably want a hot plate.

Yes I do mean really crack, as in split the glass top and see bare electrical stuff (and then replacing the top, of course). Yes, heating without a pot can really crack it, so can setting a hot from the oven casserole on the room temp top, also, setting a very hot pan on a normal or unheated part of the stove top, or on a wet dish towel on the top. These tops are glass not metal.

Good luck.

Brenda
ramseybg@yahoo.com
09/28/04
I just love reading this site. I have come to terms with my new ceramic range and have decided that I "DO" like it. It is rather nice to have "controlled temperatures" while cooking. Another friend of mine has had hers for many years and DOES use her cast iron skillet on it, but cautiously. I made a little quilt to set over the top when it is not in use.
coralee
coralee_jacobsen@hotmail.com
10/01/04
Hi. I just wanted to let everyone know that not all flat top ranges are awful. My husband and I are looking at purchasing one. After reading all these comments I was pretty discouraged so I went and talked to people that I knew that owned flat top ranges. I got extremely positive comments from everyone! I was so relieved. I guess it is just important to use it properly (correct pots, correct heat, clean often etc.) I am still VERY glad that I came across this site since now I have a list of do's and dont's for flat tops. THANKS!
tracey

10/03/04
Does anyone know the cost of replacing a cracked glass cooktop and if it is possible to replace
Donna

10/04/04
My black smooth top frigidaire has a bridge element for griddle use. The problem I am having in finding a decent griddle to use on it. All I find are cheap pieces of crap or cast iron. Any suggestions??
ellen

10/08/04
Very good flat bottom aluminum griddles cost about $40-60.
http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=griddle&Submit.x=54&Submit.y=9&sp-a=000613ee-sp00000000
John
beardjh@shaw.ca
10/09/04
We have a Maytag white ceramic cooktop range one month old. My wife used a a flat bottomed wok and it a left a large scorch mark on the cooktop plus a chunk the size of a thumbnail chipped out of the cooktop and melted to the bottom of the wok.
The range was purchased through Sears and they have now replaced the cooktop under warranty. The cost of the repair was 732.35. "Ouch"
The repairman said to use only good quality flat bottomed stainless steel cookware. His comment was that lower quality cookware with aluminum in the cooking surface tended to leave a film on the cook surface that is diffcult to remove.
The problem now what brands or cookware are recommended for these cooktops.
Madelaine
Madelaine@jam.rr.com
10/09/04
I have a GE Profile - black smooth top - and LOVE-LOVE-LOVE it!!! I have found that Barkeepers Friend works great for major cleaning - follow up with a a "spritzing" of Armor All Auto Glass Cleaner (this stuff is AMAZING), and wipe up with Viva paper towels! When I bought the stove, I had an old set of Revereware. Thankfully the copper bottoms and the smooth top didn't like each other. My sister-in-law "sold" me on All-Clad, and I would not use anything else! Barkeepers Friend keeps All-Clad looking new, too!

I think the combination of the Armor All Auto Glass Cleaner and Viva paper towels is the secret! If you try it, I think you'll be pleasantly pleased!!!

Hope

10/10/04
White Frigidare ceramic cook top
I totally regret buying the white cooktop. It shows every single mark and is so hard to clean.

This may be impossible and a crazy question but is there anyway I could replace the white glass top with black from the manufacturer?

Madelaine
Madelaine@jam.rr.com
10/10/04
Hope - You might try http://www.repairclinic.com - Under "Appliance Parts" click on "parts" and go from there - OR - check with Frigidare.
Ariel

10/10/04
About 14 + or - years ago we had a Gagganau ceramic black cooktop that I loved until my mother-in-law brought her rough-bottomed pot to make paella and dragged it back and forth dozens of times over the ceramic and scratched it up quite a bit.

Have moved around quite a bit and have had mostly electric coil top stoves with drip pans....and hate them with a passion.

Current GE stove (original in 20 yr old house we bought) only has 2 working burners, so I just purchased a Kenmore Elite black smoothtop-- as a replacement...but it hasn't been delivered or installed yet, so there is still time to change my mind. I chose black over white because I thought white would be too hard to keep clean-looking.

After reading these messages, I'm wondering if I should cancel my order and get a different type of stovetop. I have All-Clad pots and pans, and as wonderful as they are, I've probably warped them by pouring cold water into the hot pans in the sink in my rush to clean up....

Trying to decide what to do...I have about a month to decide before the delivery is made....

LOUISE

10/10/04
for all those who have those brown ugly rings on your glass cooktop. you can use a small utility razor knife and gently scratch off all the burned on food etc..hold it on a slant not up right or it will scratch the top. then clean with soap and water. i have had my stove for 3 years and love it....still
Hope

10/10/04
White Frigidare ceramic cook top
Thanks Madelaine I'll check it out!
Hope

10/10/04
White Frigidare ceramic cook top
went to repairclinic.com and they have the black top for $184.99 but the question is will someone come out and install it or will that void the warranty (and will it break my wallet)!
Hope

10/10/04
Ariel everyone I know who has a black glasstop loves them they are definately easier to keep clean than white. I love my glasstop I would never go to coil I just wish it was black instead of white. I went for the look instead of practicality. My mother in law has the Kenmore Elite and she loves it.
SUSAN

10/11/04
ellen could you tell me if i can use an aluminum expresso pot on my glasstop stove. i received one for my birthday and i am afraid to use it on my stove.
Dee

10/11/04
Broken glass cooktop: Does anyone know if it is possible to replace only the glass, rather than the entire cooktop? (If so, suggestions on where for Kenmore)
ellen

10/11/04
Re: aluminum

Pretty much all the suppliers agree NO aluminum directly against the glass cooktop, so use a hotplate for your Expresso pot. I got the free-standing electric Krups for this reason.

Re: replace cooktop

see the notes just above. Kenmore is a Sears brand, check there first.

SUSAN

10/11/04
ellen; thanks for the tip. maybe i can exchange it for an electric espresso pot instead.
Brenda

10/12/04
Black vs. white. I am sure that the same type of residue resides on the black cooktop - you just can't see it. I clean after every use, and yes, I will probably keep the cleaning company in business. I have the white with the very light gray centers. So far I am happy. Where can you purchase this Barkeeper's Friend? I have a couple friends who use it but I have not seen it around.
Sandy

10/12/04
After reading all the above....very confused!The glass top is very popular so it must not be that big a deal,simply have to get use to it like anything else ;at first it sounds complicated till you actually just use it. Do know I don't want to deal with coils ever again. Clean spills right away so clean up should not be a problem. Do wonder if the more expensive models clean easier or price makes no difference. Let me know as I plan on buying one soon.
Sandy

10/12/04
After reading all the above....very confused!The glass top is very popular so it must not be that big a deal,simply have to get use to it like anything else ;at first it sounds complicated till you actually just use it. Do know I don't want to deal with coils ever again. Clean spills right away so clean up should not be a problem. Do wonder if the more expensive models clean easier or price makes no difference. Let me know as I plan on buying one soon.
Madelaine

10/12/04
Brenda - I've been buying Barkeeper's Friend at Wal-Mart and our local grocery store. It comes in a container similar to Comet or Ajax powder cleanser. We have a Bed, Bath & Beyond and they have begun to carry a liquid form that is much nicer. I just discovered they have a Web site, too! Here it is: http://www.barkeepersfriend.com/
Brenda

10/13/04
Madelaine: Thanks for the lead. I bought the Weimans at Wal-Mart, but my friend says she uses Barkeepers and loves it.
Brenda

10/13/04
Sandy: I know what you are going through. I don't know how many times I replace elements on my coil stove and wiped up spills from the drip pans. I have had my glass top for a month and you DO need to get used to it...I love the thermostatically controlled cooking. AND, I think I am saving electricity. I cook to a certain degree, and turn the element OFF - there is enough heat left to finish the cooking of most things. And, to think I almost returned this range for a coil range. I clean everytime I use it...Enjoy
Shirley

10/15/04
I am trying to decide whether to buy a smooth-top stove or a regular coil one. Since I have limited counter space, I usually put hot roasting pans directly from the oven onto the coil stove top. Can this also be done on the Ceran smooth-top ranges without causing any damage to the smooth-top surface? Comments would be greatly appreciated.
Brenda

10/17/04
My friend who has had one of these for years, says YES and she does a LOT of cooking. Some of the cooking stores, Sur La Table, sell these rubberized hotpads...I bought one and LOVE it ..amazing that they don't melt.
ellen

10/18/04
Actually, though they feel like rubber they are high temp silicone, and will stand up to 600 degrees.

The report of cracking from an oven dish was a hot large casserole set on a wet dishtowel on a cold stove. Don't know how old the top was... Ellen

brenda
mmoore98@cox.net
10/18/04
I recently bought a house with a fridgidair ceramic cooktop, but was left with no directions on how to operate it. I can't seem to regulate the temperature and can't walk far from the stove when cooking. Can you give me some help on this problem?
Lynn
challenge5@hotmail.com
10/18/04
Help! I just used my Frigidare black ceramic stove top for the first time tonight. I'm not sure what happed, but now there are some tiny little holes where the paint is chipped off on one of the burners. Is this a defect? Is there some type of black ink that could cover up these little spots?
ellen

10/19/04
Frigidaire will send a replacemnt manual for your particular stove, doesn't cost too much, it will be worth it.

New stove with chips? Get on the phone to where you bought it TODAY. The warranty should cover replacement. Do NOT accept a touch up, it will never be right!

Nancy
pavonen@bellsouth.net
10/23/04
I have a GE white ceramic stove top and the large burner has turned grey around the outside and in the middle. what could have caused that. I have tried all the cleaners recommended for this stove. I believe these stains are permanent but hope someone might have another suggestion. I have used the scraper and pad, ceramic stove top cleaner etc.
michele
tlmech@bellsouth.net
10/24/04
I don't like the ceremic cooktops. They scratch to easily even with mild solutions.

I also think gas is the way to go. waterheater, stove, heat. Its the best thing if your electric goes out you still have those things to use.

I need help I want to buy copper pots and pans. I saw some old ones in an antique store can I cook in them if I buy them old?

Kelly
kellyc8576@msn.com
10/31/04
HELP! A small plastic bag managed to slip onto my burner and immediately melted onto it. I turned off the burner and removed the pan and have let it cool. I tried leaving a wet washcloth overnight to loosen to no avail. PLEASE let me know if anyone has advice on how to remove this hard plastic so I can use my stove. Thanks!
nan
nhbogger@nps.k12.va.us
10/31/04
I have an ugly scratch about the size of a quarter on my smoothtop. Are there any products available to remove the scratch? I love my smoothtop. I have been using it for 3 and 1/2 years. This is the first problem I have had with it.
Dianne

11/02/04
I have a 1.5 year old Whirlpool ceran cooktop that I love but have just noticed one of the front burners has 2 rings (half rings - arcs) from the pot bottom where the finish seems to have come off. I'm hoping I'm wrong but it doesn't look like a stain. Is there a fix for this - I don't want to replace the top - the rings are small. I don't know what caused them.
Angel

11/02/04
I've cooked for 7 and a half years on my black ceramic KitchenAid range and have had NO problems in keeping the top clean, but I never let it go more than a couple of days--it gets dusty anyway. It sparkles and cooks well.
But I never thought about this until it has happened--how do I replace just one burner? The largest, and most used, burner has apparently burned out. Does the top lift up somehow to replace the coils as in a regular electric range?
Janet Zuzo
kukara@msn.com
11/04/04
I have Whirlpool Gold with white ceramic top and first I want to suggest others something really great I've just discovered for excellent and pain free cleaning. It's called Pure Clean BATHROOM BLOCK. With just a little clean water gently move it over the surface gently (no pressure) and all yellow and brown is off. I bought it in Walmart, but you can find about it on www.goearthstone.com.
But, I have bigger problem than that! Since I bought this block I have 3 beautiful burners, but the fourth one is black as a tar. About 2 months ago, a piece of aluminum foil fell from the pan and melted into the surface. Is there any kind of chemical that would melt it off without distroying ceramic surface. Please help!
Dianne

11/04/04
Seems like there are a lot of problems with these cooktops! Just checked back to see if anyone had a fix for my problem (the pot seems to have etched out rings on the burner surface -not sure it could be a stain - anyone have this problem??) but have noticed there are so many other probs you are all experiencing. I'll be careful now not to let anything boil over, not to put a plastic bag anywhere near the cooktop, not to use copper pots, etc. These tops look so great but they're high maintenance.
ellen

11/04/04
Definitelt high maintenance! These cooktops make me think about that joke about tne high maintenance person who thinks s/he's a low maintenance person. Anyway, the new cleaning product suggestions sound useful. I do not have any reports of success in removing burnt on plastic or metal/foil, or to replace a single burner in the top- but I also had a heck of a time getting the residue off a gas burner when I toasted a plastic cup recently, so it isn't just smooth tops.
Jan Hirsch
phirsch@casco.net
11/05/04
I have a 6 year old Maytag glass top stove. I tried to use a presto canner (23 qt. size) as a hot water bath canner. The water never came to a full rolling boil after 2 hours. I even put just 1 inch of water in it to test it out.
The canner info states that it can be used on a smooth top stove. The canner base is 8 inches across the lower center and I tried to use it on the 6 inch element on the stove and on the 8 inch element. However, the water will not heat up to a boil. Help...
Thanks
Tammy
dimwit40@yahoo.com
11/05/04
need to know how to clean the bottom of stainless steel pots and pans
ellen

11/07/04
There is a product dalled "Nanal Jelly" usually found at good hardware stores, which is a great metal polish fo stainless steel or aluminim. Just wah thoroughly after polishing. I am NOT recommending this for stovetops, just pots.
Debbie

11/07/04
Interesting. I have a Kenmore black, glass top and I love it. It is simple to clean and looks great. I have had it for two years and I have boiled over just about everything on it. It looks as good as new. I clean it between uses with the cleaner I bought at Walmart and once in a while use a razor to scrape off any spills. I don't feel like a slave to it in any way. It is the easiest stove top I have ever had to maintain.

I got a new set of pans as a gift and I was searching the net for info on if they are ok to use on my stove. They have the ridges that a couple people here described. I think I will return them and get flat bottomed pans however.

Thank you for all your ideas and comments.

Phyllis
emailroobaer@yahoo.com
11/07/04
Can you use enameled cast iron on a glass cook top?
pat
patgeos@wmconnect.com
11/09/04
I just had my kitchen redone and bought a JennAire black cook top. I am already discouraged with the upkeep. I have Calphalon
pots and pans I bought 2 years ago and now I understand that aluminum is not good for the cooktop. What brand do you suggest I buy. I am ready to change to new ones. Anyone out there ready to by my Calphalon pots and pans cheap?
pat vachino

11/09/04
ceramic cook top vs. coil
I am replacing my coil electric stove top. I was considering a smooth top but am now hesitant after reading the comments. I cook a lot and have several types of pans, some or which have copper bottoms. I am not interested in replacing my pots but do want good cooking results. Gas is not an option. Which way do I go,coil or smooth?
ellen

11/10/04
The big problem with aluminum pans on the cooktops is with the plain aluminum pans, they mark the stovetop too easily. If the aluminum pan is anodized all over the outside and bottom, and does NOT have ridges/circles molded into the bottom, you will probably be satisfied with the results on your stovetop.

With iron pans, you have to have a smooth bottom and like the aluminum DO NOT slide or drag across the top!!! pick up and put down.

Several readres have not had good luck with copper bottom pans.

Pat this is a big decision for you. Smoothtops really do not get as hot as or even adjust as uickly as regular electrics, let alone gas. See the discussion on Wok cooking and on trying to use a canner, above. So it depends a lot on what kind of cooking you do.

Lori

11/16/04
Hi,

I am looking at replacing my old coil avocado green stove with a ceran top range. I have totally been freaked out by the comments I have read. My husband will have a fit if the thing ends up more work than not. I like the clean look that this stove gives and my pots are just analon no copper although I do have an old aluminium roaster which I use at Thanksgiving and Christmas. Do you recommend I get rid of this if I decide to get the smooth top range?

Lori

Kate

11/16/04
We have the new smooth top surface and picked the black top to go with our other appliances. We were almost ready to admit we had made a mistake with the various marks and spill over stains, until I finally used the Mr. Clean Eraser Pads. If you have not tried these...get them! They take off scuff marks or almost any kind of smudge, dirt or grime off of virtually any wood, plastic, tile, ceramic and so many more surfaces. I took a little alcohol and let the marks on our stove top "marinate" for about five minutes. Then took Mr. Clean Eraser and gently "erased". Magic! I tried using the alcohol and then removing with other scrubbers or cloths and it wouldn't work. The "eraser" made our stove top look brand new. Hope it might work for all of you!
Norma Holliman
ph31@earthlink.net
11/17/04
I am looking for a protective cover for my GE Glass Top Range. Since my exhaust fan is directly over the range, would like to be able to put deep fryer or skillet on the range to use, but do not wnat to put directly on the glass top. I would appreciate any information that anyone would have regarding a source of procurement.
ellen

11/17/04
I suggest the really large silicone mats, they are easy to move off the stove for cleanimg and can stand the heat of the spatters.
Norma

11/18/04
Thank you, Ellen for the silicone mat suggestion.
Chris

11/18/04
ceramic cook top - cookware to use!
I just stumbled across a site that finally gave a clear answer to what type of cookware to use with glass ceramic stovetops! It says:
"We recommend using an 18/10 stainless steel cookware that is made with the full cap base or using 18/10 stainless steel clad metal cookware. Make sure to choose cookware that is medium to heavy weight as thinner pans may warp and not work effectively on your stovetop. It's important to match the burner size as closely to the pan size as possible when cooking. Your cookware should have flat bottoms for effective heat transfer. Plain Aluminum or Hard Anodized Aluminum cookware are also suitable for glass or ceramic cooktops, but may leave metal marks and/or residues on your stovetop that appear to be scratches. Please note that cookware with rough bottoms can mark or scratch the cooktop surface. DO NOT slide or drag your cookware on the surface. Glass, Ceramic, Copper Bottom and Cast Iron cookware are NOT recommended for use on glass cooktops. Please also note that cookware with a painted, porcelin enamel or colored exterior must never be overheated on a glass/ceramic stovetop. Cookware of this type that is overheated may, in some instances, fuse to the surface of the stovetop requiring complete replacement of the stovetop."
Sorry for the length of this posting, but I think it will help!
Brenda

11/22/04
Chris: What is the link to this website that you mention?
Ar
basqarl@yahoo.com
11/22/04
I have a new Kenmore Elite that i have just used for the first time today with my Al-clad. The left burners have a 'bridge' component and it is recommended that the correct size griddle be used with it.

The stove came with an 'electric griddle' but I am afraid to use it because it rests on for flat screw-type heads rather than lying flat on the stove. It almost looks to me as though it must be a mistake. There is nothing in the direction manual about using this item (other than the fact that it exists). Does anyone know anything about this item and whether it is to rest on the four metal 'feet'?

ellen

11/23/04
There is a number to call for customer service in the manual that came with your new stove, do call them. I have not seen these griddles.
Scotty
banjoscotty@direcway.com
11/23/04
I have a Maytag black glass top range. I boiled a pot dry and the glass cracked and a small piece fell out. Can this crater be fixed,filled,or do I replace the whole range? Thanks
ellen

11/24/04
I am so sorry, what a bad time to have this happen. As mentioned above, you are looking at replacing the whole top before you can use any of the burners safely- explanation above. If it is part of a stove, you can probably do just the top. Besides Maytag, you can check with Sears Appliance Repair.
William
thechin2@yahoo.com
11/26/04
I had search the world over looking for the perfect product to clean the Whirlpool Black Stovetop my Beautiful wife "which I love so dearly" purchased about a year ago. Well I have found it..... Mr. Clean Magic Eraser works like a charm leaving pleanty of spare time for love and romance.
Dave
rips042@yahoo.com
11/27/04
I purchased an used Kenmore flat top range today. However, I found out 2 of the burner coils inside the ceramic glass has fell off. How do I open the ceramic glass top? Any ideas?

Thanks!

Dave

ellen

11/28/04
Dave, I have NO idea; maybe a reader has coped and will tell us.
Liz
lizharvey1@aol.com
11/28/04
We just bought a Kenmore black ceramic stovetop and so far love it. I checked out this site to see if we could use Corning Ware on it. I've appreciated all the helpful cooking and cleaning tips. In response to Donna (10/4/04), we had recommended to us a Classicor griddle made by Innova. It is nonstick stainless steel. We used it once so far and it was just fine. As soon as I learn just how hot to have it for pancakes, I'm sure I'll like it even better! I had originally bought a cast iron one that was advertised safe for ceramic stovetops but I just didn't have a good gut feeling about it after it arrived. The Classicor was $60.
Pete
upitt5@yahoo.com
12/02/04
We have a GE profile 932 ceramic gas cooktop and we likes it since it looks much nicer than traditional porcelin top. However, the cramic glass top cracked after just 27 months of normal usage. We called the company and was told that we can purchase a new ceramic glass top for %510 including shipping and install it ourselves because the warrenty covers only one year. Our questions are 1. how long can a ceramic top last and how often does it crack? 2. should we purchase a new cooktop than just replace the ceramic? 3. what causes the crack? Thanks for your help.
ellen

12/04/04
The tops can last 10 years or more as discussed by readers, you had very bad luck. The biggest problem with installing the ceramic yourself, besides the hassle, is no warranty. Shop around locally for the top and repair, you may be able to do better. Also check your local appliance clearance places, you may get a new stove with a new warranty for around the same price.

If you read through the thread you will see considerable discussion about cracking the tops.

Barbara
bjbalog@aol.com
12/04/04
I have had 3 kenmore/Sears coil-tops in the past year...all have the same problem. I've asked for my money back, and Sears is about to pick up this one. The edges and other parts of the stovetop get so hot from the burners that you cannot touch the edges or much of the top. I burned my stomach through my clothes, and have a small scar as a result. Friends have nearly been burned. Sears says this problem cannot be fixed, and is acceptable to them. However, the retail folks kept exchanging my stove thinking surely that the next one will not be like this. I've cooked on coil-tops all my life (I'm 55)...this is all my mother ever had, and all I ever had in many apartments (with cheaper stoves) and now my home. I never saw such a problem with an electric coil-top. In sheer frustration, I started to consider a glass top...until I read all of this. If these are so popular, why don't I know anyone except a sister who has one (and loves it, even though she said it looks horrible), a friend who had one (and couldn't wait to get rid of it), and a friend with two sisters who own them (and are lukewarm about them)? Now an appliance dealer (small, family-owned business) tells me that UL standards say it is acceptable for a cooktop to be hot like these three Kenmores? Help! I don't want gas. I'm going to start advertising for a used coil-top. (SAFE coil-tops are going to become hard to get, like regular toilets...which are being smuggled in, I hear, from Canada because so many of those low flow toilets are such a problem.) How do we fight this? I would rather deal with the known cleaning concerns of a coil-top than the cleaning, scratching, breaking I'm reading about here. But I cannot compromise on SAFETY. Are gas and used electrics my only choices?
Barbara
bjbalog@aol.com
12/04/04
Barb here again.... While in that family-owned business the other day, the salesman/owner put 3 cups of water in a pot and put it on a glass-top stove, to impress with with this type of electric stove. It took 8 minutes for this water to come to a boil! I tried the same thing at home, on my coil-top, and it took only 3.5 minutes. At home it took 19 minutes for 6 quarts of water to come to a boil in my big soup pot. Does this mean it's going to take 20-30 minutes on a glass top to boil water for corn on the cob?
Barbara

12/04/04
Let's all go buy antique stoves! These babies are costly, but will last forever. Check out these websites:

http://www.antiqueappliances.com
http://www.antiquestoves.com

ellen

12/05/04
Yes, they take about twice as long to heat water to the boil and as mentioned above, so really big pots nevber do boil.
Do definitely write UL (Underwriter's Laboratory ) with your experience of being burned. What about kids and short people, who have to reach across those hot tops?
Carla

12/07/04
I didn't read the manual first to my new Kenmore, and I put foil in the bottom of the stove as a drip-liner.....well, it melted and stuck. Amy suggestions on how to get this off????? Scraping is not working. Thanks
jan

12/08/04
I've only had my GE Profile range with bisque glass top for a week and so far I love it. It's been wonderfully easy to clean (with the cream cleaner) compared with my old coil range. Am I to understand that it gets less easy to clean with time or as the surface is marred?
Brynn
mccartbr@d25.k12.id.us
12/10/04
Hi. My mom just built a new house, and has a ceramic top stove. I've been looking EVERYWHERE for a cover that covers the entire thing, and can't find one. Do they make such things? And where do I find one?
Lily

12/11/04
SCOTCH BRITE!!! It is the absolute MIRACLE for cleaning a smooth-top stove!!! I wasted a year with the cleaner that came with the stove and a lot of elbow grease. Then my sister who also has a smooth top told me you can use Scotch Brite Pads and I have not used the cleaner one time since that day. It is AWESOME!!! SCOTCH BRITE does not scratch the smooth top and it takes up that nasty black stuff with very little elbow grease! I HIGHLY recommend SCOTCH BRITE pads. I just use the plain, thin, dark green pads, but you can use the Scotch Brite sponges too...I just have a big problem with sponges, in general...germ carriers. I use DAWN and warm water with the Scotch Brite and my smooth top sparkles! I always allow the Scotch Brite to dry out fully, behind my sink, so as to minimize bacterial growth. What a WONDER Scotch Brite has been in my attitude toward my stove! Like I said, I have not once used the smooth top cleaner on it, in the two years I've been using Scotch Brite, and it shines after each cleaning! Everything else about my stove, I love!!! Contrary to what others have written, my stove top heats up quicker and "hotter" than my previous electric coil stove. I have even canned for three years on my smooth top. Prior to Scotch Brite, I also used razor blades to scrape things off, but again, I have not had to use them at all, since SCOTCH BRITE...TRY IT!!!
Brenda
brenda7@hvc.rr.com
12/12/04
I have a question about cracked glass cooktops. My WONDERFUL HUSBAND accidently dropped a hammer on the back edge of my cooktop, causing a small crack and some tiny breakage. It is nowhere near the burners, do I need to have this replaced? UGH!
jan

12/12/04
Several people have mentioned using something to cover and presumably protect the range top. Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen to me. Someone mentioned a quilt. What would happen if a burner was accidentally turned on?
paul

12/13/04
instead of a ceramic cooktop, i purchased a product called SafeTelement that covers the coil element of an electric stove and keeps its temperature below 350C so that it prevents ignition (fire!) of oil, paper, any material that would be around your stove as well as saves energy. The plate also smooths out temperature gradients for more level cooking and covers the drip tray so you may have to clean your stove top and SafeTelement. I bought it through Pioneeringtech.com and have also bought it for my aging parents for safety reasons. Fire marshalls just love these things as most fires are caused by cooking.
ellen

12/13/04
Paul, thanks for the tip, these element covers are new to me.

Jan, The ONLY thing I suggest to place on the stovetop is the 600 degree heat safe silicon pad that can be used in the oven, ANYTHING flammable is unsafe- just a disaster waiting to happen.

Brenda, as to the crack, it will extend eventually, but since it is nowhere near the burner, your unhandy husband might consider a heat resistant epoxy grout or seal such as is used on engine blocks. What WAS he doing with a hammer over the stove?:

Brenda

12/13/04
LOL Thanks Ellen! We just recently moved into our house, the previous owners had some UGLY molding around the counter, Soooooooo I asked my husband to remove it! And of course that makes the cracked stove MY FAULT!! hahaha!

I will try some kind of heat resistant stuff, but will be prepared to replace the damn thing eventually.

Wanda

12/14/04
We just bought a Kenmore with a black ceramic top and my husband boiled over water from eggs...it has left marks and looks like a chip...is tht just residue or is it chipped already? Tried vinegar and dish soap both individually and didnt clean it. Any help would be appreciated.
ellen

12/15/04
Try the Mr Clean Magic Eraser specifically, if that doesn't do it, invoke your warranty! Ellen
Jane
Quinley01@aol.com
12/20/04
ceramic or glass smooth top
I am thinking about buying a smooth top range. Are the ceramic top and glass top referred to in various messages the same? If not what is the advantage of having glass over ceramic or vice versa?

I was told by a salesman at a store who sold several different brands of smooth tops to consider buying either a Maytag or Whirlpool because of the "Schott Ceran (Ceram?)" smooth top because the glass was so much thicker than the tops being put out by other brands. Does anyone know anything about these particular tops and if it is true that these smooth tops are superior over the others?

ellen

12/20/04
They are the same stuff, and you can check the thickness by looking in the owners manual. Please try one for a sew days before you buy, for example borrow a friend's kitchen or rent a vacation kitchen with one.
Prafulla
prafullars@hotmail.com
12/21/04
I just got a Kenmore White ceramic cooktop. The 2 front burners are very large and 2 smaller at the rear.They heat up very quickly and takes ages to cool down.Also none of my old pots work on this,which means I will have to buy new set of pots & pans and also watch my cooking so I avoid spills...as this is white stains will show....looks like my old cooktop was less hassel...This one looks nice but I am afraid to use it and cooking will no longer be a pleasure...any tips to make life more bearable
Miranda
mq10@yahoo.com
12/25/04
I bought a GE profile black glass top earlier this year. The first time I used it, I cooked white rice and had some spillage. After the burner completely cooled down, my husband used Cerama Bryte and the yellow scrubber (it came with the stove) and scrubbed off the residue. Now I have a dull stain on my glass top. Any solutions to make it shine again?

I continue to use the Cerama-Bryte because it works great when it comes to cleaning the entire top but it never makes that particular burnt rice spot shine like the rest of the glass top. I threw away the yellow scrubber!

gisele
kennyandgisele@bellsouth.net
12/25/04
I have a 3 yr. old Sears Kenmore 40inch dual fuel gas range. The top is gas with a black glass top which shattered spontaneously while cooking. I have exhausted all efforts in talking to Sears repair, appliance dept., recall dept. (to see if there are other similar defects), and Sears will not replace the glass. Estimated repair cost is $1004.00. The stove new was $1900.00. Any suggestions?
RUTH HARRIS
ACURA2MAY@AOL.COM
12/26/04
Portable convenction oven
can you pop popcorn in a convection oven?
Judy

12/27/04
I just ordered a G.E. glass top stove from Sears..My first ever, after using the traditional coil stove for years.. I did buy some stainless steel pots and pans, but I do still have some old aluminum pots that I have used for cooking spagetti.. Are aluminum pots o.k. to use with this new stove?? Also, i noticed that Scotch Brite pads are o.k. to use on these stoves.. I might give it a try if the cream does not work.. I would appreciate any suggetions anyone has.. Thank you..
Jenny
jennov28@hotmail.com
12/27/04
Help,
My nylon/polyester apron got placed on a hot smooth top range. It melted on a burner. Once the burner cooled the nylon hardened and cracked. I was able to just peel the top layer off, but it left a hard film on the burner. Any suggestions how to remove this without ruining the burner? Help in Ohio
Deb

12/30/04
Do not use a Mr. Clean Magic Eraser on your glass or ceramic top stove.

The Magic Eraser is the 8th wonder of the world, but it should NOT be used on polished surfaces.

Deb

12/30/04
Also, the ONLY Scotchbrite product that is remotely safe to use is the Blue Multi-Purpose No Scratch Sponge...and I would be careful about that.
I thought nothing could convert me from gas, but my boyfriend's ceramic top did, and I find it cleans up quickly and looks great. I'm thrilled to have receiv