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Lost manual for Rival Electric Roaster Oven
Gail Luddeni-tutrone
11/16/07
Please Please help if you can with instructions or where I can download the manual for the Rival Electric Roaster Oven. I bought it last year used it for Thanksgiving and it was wonderful however in the process of putting the roaster away the manual was lost. Needless to say I need same before Thursday (Thanksgiving) is there a web site where I can find the Instruction book and download it? I am DESPERATE!!!!
Gail Luddeni-Tutrone
11/16/07
I need to know where there is a web site so that I can download the missing manual from my rival Electric Roaster Oven. I am desperate....
ellen
11/17/07
If you go to the Nesco site, they have a fine selection of recipes. For some reason, Rival is not currently making their roaster manuals downloadable online, and the recipe collection is minimal.

You can find some rival manuals for sale on eBay.

ellen
11/17/07
Here is the internet site for the Nesco 18 quart manual/ download:

http://www.nesco.com/customer_support/owners_manual_download/english/

Nancy Peters
11/22/07
Me,too. It's 6 a.m. Thanksgiving morn and I am anxiously looking for manual. I swear I put it inside the roaster last year. Oh well I'll try Nesco. Thanks
ANN M GUBITOSE
11/23/07
i lost my manual for my rival roaster oven 18 quarts.
please let me know how i can download the manual.

ann m gubitose

elln
11/23/07
Ann, as mrentioned just above, Rival does not post its manuals. You can download the Nesco manual, which is about the same. You can also go to EBay and buy a manual- they come up for sale (just the manual) from time to time.
Brenda
11/24/07
Lost instruction manual for 20 QT Rival Electric Roaster oven.
ellen
11/24/07
See the Nesco or Hamilton Beach sites, Rival does not post their manuals on line.
Catherine Boudreaux
12/10/07
I have a Rival 18 qt. electric roaster oven. Unfortunately, I can not find the instruction manual. Can you help?
Thank you
ellen
12/10/07
Catherine, use the Nesco manual:
http://www.nesco.com/customer_support/owners_manual_download/english/

Rival does not post theirs.

ellen
12/10/07
Catherine, use the Nesco manual:
http://www.nesco.com/customer_support/owners_manual_download/english/

Rival does not post theirs.

Lynn
12/20/07
Hi, I lost my manual for my Rival Electric Roaster oven model no. R0220W. I have never used it so I am not even sure how big a turkey I can use in it. It is a 20 qt.
Thanks for any help someone can give.
Lynn
ellen
12/20/07
About 18 pounds is the best. You can go a bit larger, but the cooking is not as even. Go to the Nesco site above or eatturkey.com if you like, for more help.
Sally Pietszak
09/14/08
lost my manuel can it be replaced


thank you
Sally Pietszak
ellen
09/15/08
See the links above. You can download it or purchase it in book form.
Chris Parsnik
11/21/08
I have a 20 qt programmable roaster I want to use it but I am not sure what to set it on to cook a turkey 22lbs or for how long HELP! I can not find the book for it. 325 or375 for 5and a forth hours or longer HELP !!!!!!!!
ellen
11/22/08
Go to the manufacturer's website, read/download the manual. Programmables are not my bag- they vary from brand to brand. Use a thermometer and start checking at least 1/2 hour before you think it will be done. Preheat the oven at least 20 minutes. If you want brown, start in a preheated regular oven for 500 degrees for 20 minutes before using the roaster.
cathy
11/26/08
lost my manual for my rival 20 qt.roster oven where could i find one to use
ellen
11/26/08
Cathy if you will read up the thread, links are already posted.
ellen
11/26/08
or look on EBay, they come up from time.
Pete
11/27/08
This is a really stupid question, but you do have to put water at the bottom of the roaster to cook a turkey right?
ellen
11/27/08
Very usual question. It already cooks quite moist, you do not have to put water in the bottom of the cookwell. Do put the little rack in the bottom.
Loretta
11/27/08
UNfortunately, the website now longer exists...at least it says that on my computer. Can you just please tell me if the turkey coooks faster in the roaster as mine somehow turned off and now I am afraid it won't be done on time.
Loretta
11/27/08
Sorry for the typos...I am in a hurry to find out. LOL
ellen
11/27/08
It usually cooks a little faster. Use a meat thermometer.
lisa
11/27/08
I ran into your thread, and have my manual here...it says to not add any liquids (yummier skin. Preheat for 20 mins. Turkey prebasted: 375 degrees for 12-15 mins per pound (more per pound the closer your bird is to 22 lbs) and for fresh turkey (only 10-14 lbs) it says use 350 degrees 15-17 mins. Safe poultry is 165 degrees at the breast but don't forget the bird will continue to cook a little after you take it out of the oven, so you might remove it when breast meat is 155 degrees. Happy Thanksgiving
pat hughes
11/28/08
18 qt rival roaster oven manual lost,
lost my manuel. where can i get one or download one
ellen
11/28/08
Order from the website at Rival, or buy on EBay.
Kim
12/02/08
Can you bake potatoes in the rival roaster oven? If so, does it work just like a regular oven?
ellen
12/03/08
Yes, and yes.
russ
12/24/08
cooking turkey in a rival roaster?
when cooking a turkey in a rival roaster, do you put water on the bottom or just the turkey and seasoning and then just cook it or add water?
ellen
12/24/08
I do not add any water- the roaster cooks moist already. I do put a cake rack in the bottom to keep the turkey out of the juice, and I do PAM the cookwell.
Linda
12/25/08
I never add liquids and I use the Rival roaster oven. According to the owner's guide, "to create a darker roasted, crispier skin poultry, do not add liquids (with the exception of the basting butter or oil) until there are only 30 minutes left of cooking." I always have so much juice on the bottom when the food is almost done, I do not need to add anything. It also says on another page that "reducing temp and increasing time will result in a darker crispier crust." I cook my turkey on 325 and baste every half hour and it comes out great. It usually ends up taking about the same amount of time that is on the turkey package since I remove the lid so much and cook at a lower temperature.
Lynne
04/12/09
I too lost my instructions for my Rival 20qt electric roaster and need to know if I can heat a bone in fully cooked spiral ham in it. I tried it one year and placed the ham on foil on the rack. It didn't heat it more than the bottom inch or so. Will it work without the foil?
ellen
04/12/09
Preheat the oven. I just posted this info yesterday on another thread:

Reheating these whole hams is a little tricky because they tend to get dry as they get warm. If you want to reheat carved ham, USDA recommends heating only those slices needed and not the entire ham.

To reheat a spiral-sliced ham in a conventional oven, cover the entire ham or portion with heavy aluminum foil and heat at 325 F for about 10 minutes per pound.

Spiral-sliced ham vacuum-sealed at a USDA-inspected plant will exhibit the USDA mark of inspection on the label. These spiral sliced hams should be cooked to an internal temperature of 140 F as measured with a food thermometer.

For spiral-sliced hams that have been repackaged in any location, reheat to 165 F. Individual slices may also be warmed in a skillet or microwave.

Fully cooked hams can also be sold unsliced, If you want to reheat a whole ham, use a preheated oven set no lower than 325 F and, like spiral-sliced hams, heated to an internal temperature of 140 F as measured with a food thermometer.

IMPORTANT!!! For fully cooked ham that has been repackaged in any other location or for leftover fully cooked ham, reheat to 165 F.

Paula Beshears
08/01/09
Lost manual for Rival Electric Roaster
Ive lost the instruction booklet for my rival roaster. Its a RO9 Roaster, model number ROS180. If you can help or give any info it would be greatly appreciated. I wanted to cook a pork butt but dont know specifics on times or other info.
ellen
08/01/09
These manuals are available from time to time on EBay- you may want to check. Any roaster manual will give you recipes that will work in your roaster. Or you can use it as a slow cooker, 195-200 for low, 290-300 for high.
ellen
08/01/09
You can also call their service number:
1-800-323-9519 rival service. Wait for the help, don't push 1-5 when prompted and wait for a person.
They can email most of their manuals and are nice to work with.
Kathy
10/20/09
Please Please help if you can with instructions or where I can download the manual for the Rival Electric Roaster Oven. I bought it last year used it for Thanksgiving and it was wonderful however in the process of putting the roaster away the manual was lost. Needless to say I need same before Thursday (Thanksgiving) is there a web site where I can find the Instruction book and download it? I am DESPERATE!!!!
ellen
10/20/09
Kathy if you read the answer immediately above this, you can re-order your manual. Or use the Nesco roaster manual, info at the top of this thread. This is not something to waste your despair capacity on.
ellen
10/20/09
Or just go to eatturkey.com, if it is turkey you are cooking.
Melissa
11/02/09
i lost my manual and i have never used the roaster before....I bought it because my sister has one and said she uses it just like a over and i recently moved out and dont have a oven....is it possible to cook chicken parm in a roaster oven? My sister said that i can put it in a pan and place the pan into the roaster and it will work fine...In my roaster there is a bin that comes out i am assuming for easy cleaning....can i cook the parm directly in that? or will it just burn? thank you for your help
ellen
11/02/09
Melissa, the pan that comes out is called the cookpan. You CAN cook directly in it, but that is usually done for large item, or for large amounts of casseroles, soups or stews. For something like chicken Parmesan, you want to put the little rack on the bottom of the oven and put your sheet or pan on the rack. For best success with roasters, preheat for 15-20 minutes, keep the lid on, and remember that they tend to cook faster and moister than ordinary ovens.

My family cooked and baked for 2 years with only a roaster when we lived in Taiwan. Mom made everything she made in the regular oven in the roaster.

Terry
11/25/09
I am roasting my turkey tonight in the oven and want to use my Rivel Roaster to warm the sliced meat tomorrow. Do I put water in the bottom and use the take out pan or do I put the meat directly in the pan? Should I keep the broth in with the meat or not? Thanks for your help.
ellen
11/25/09
DO NOT EVER put water in the roaster under the cook pan. It is unsafe and interferes with heating. See my article on reheating turkey in the holiday cooking section at the top of big pots for help with temp, time, etc.
Lisa
11/25/09
I am using the 18 quart roaster with the three separate containers for vegetables. Do i need to put water anywhere in the cooker or do i simply heat @ 300?
ellen
11/25/09
The buffet server is only a warmer and cannot be safely used to heat/cook the food. That must be cooked/heated on the stove or in the oven, then transferred to the warmers. You do put some water in the cook pan under the warmer dishes. Here is the manual; see pages 6 and 7.

www.rivalproducts.com/manuals/MANUALS/RO188BR_43_81844057.PDF

moe
11/26/09
how long and what temp. to cook a 20lb. turky
ellen
11/26/09
See the roasting turkey thread.
john z hess
12/23/09
lost manuel for my 20 q roaster ove
pleas send me one
john z hess
ellen
12/23/09
John, I don't send them. You go to any of the links listed above and download them yourself...
damian
12/23/09
I have 12 to 13 lbs of rib eye roast, what temp. and how long should I cook it for
ellen
12/24/09
Damian, I don't recommend the Nesco for this job as it cooks so moist, unless you use Alton Brown's suggestion of running the roast into a preheated 500 degree oven for at least 15 minutes at the end of cooking time to get the crust.

For low and slow, 17-19 minutes per pound at 325. Preheat oven at least 30 minutes; also, follow all the suggestions on the prime rib/ roast beef page; and use a thermometer for the internal temp; some of these, because of shape, previous freezing, or processing, cook MUCH faster than the standard time.

You can hold at 165 with the lid ajar if it finishes too early.

Sandy
12/24/09
I, too have lost my manual. I wanted to know if you need to put water under the cookpan?
ellen
12/24/09
Absolutely no. See up the thread and the GE roaster thread for discussion.
Virginia
12/29/09
Baking cookies etc
Can I bake cookies and cakes and pie in my roaster?
ellen
12/29/09
Yes. Preheating is essential. Other than that, use the rack, and treat it pretty much like a regular oven time and temp-wise.
7.5 lbs Ham
01/01/10
How long should we cook a 7.5 lbs honey baked ham?
ellen
01/01/10
This is usually a fully cooked ham that is being reheated, tightly wrApped in foil, 5- 8 minutes per pound at 325-350.
ellen
01/03/10
Here is the current link for Nesco manuals (all appliances)January 2010:

www.nesco.com/customer_support/owners_manual_download/english/

Diane
03/06/10
I was wondering if a crab boil would work in the roaster since I don't have a stockpot big enough? Any suggestions?
Diane
03/06/10
Sory, I asked for crab boil advice and forgot to include my email.
ellen
03/07/10
Yes, it will be fine, you just turn the roaster up high enough to boil, keep it covered, and don't fill more that about 2/3 full (including the crab/shrimp).
terry sanchez
05/10/10
just to clarify no water in roaster under the cook pan don't have manual
ellen
05/11/10
Correct. No water EVER in the pan under the copoking pan. EVER.
Brenda
05/22/10
cooking pork butt roasts
I set Temp. on 300 for numerous pork roasts. To make pulled pork. Cooked over night approx. 8 hrs and pork was not done and was alittle brown on top. I don't want anyone to get sick should I just throw away and start over. Or do you think that the pork is fine and needs more cooking time?
ellen
05/23/10
Not ruined if it has been refrigerated since you took it out. Pork hits a plateau at 160-65, can hang there for literally hours before going to 180, where it needs to be for pulled pork. You probably put cold meat into a cold roaster... Can take up to an hour per pound if the roaster is really full.

Anyway, preheat the roaster, put it in and use a thermometer, cook the pork to 180 internal temp.

Nancy Kreilein
06/27/10
I lost my manual for Rival Electric 16 qt. Roaster oven. Can you help to send me one or down load on my computer.
ellen
06/28/10
Read 8/1/09.
Elise Ellis
07/04/10
I Lost my Manuel:
Rival 18 Quart Roaster Oven
Model # RO180
Type RO1

Please mail me a new Manuel,

I need it for "How To Use and for "Recipes"

I have never used it before.

ellen
07/04/10
Elise, I don't supply these manuals, just the link and telephone number above in the thread so you can call them.
Lorna
07/30/10
I just checked out the web site listed above for Nesco and they now have the online manuals posted. Thank you 7/30/10
Olga
08/16/10
Lost my manual for Programmable Roaster Oven with meat probe. Where can I find instructions?
ellen
08/16/10
Go to the manufacturer's website, have the model number, somewhere on there they will have either downloadable manuals or a place to order a new one.
Kim
09/10/10
Can you make rice in the 20 qt rial roaster oven?
ellen
09/10/10
Yes, for up to about 60 people as a side dish or 4050 for a main dish.
Elaine
09/25/10
Can I boil potatoes in my roaster oven while away for 2-4 hours? I do this in my crock pot but need a bigger quantity. What temp would I leave it on? (I then mash the potatoes when I get home...)
ellen
09/26/10
I would not do this. It is NOT voltage/power regulated like a crock pot, and I do not use it unless someone is there to keep an eye on it.
ma ma
11/01/10
geez, why dont you just go to target, open a box and look at the manual. or buy the thing and take it home and look at the manual. there is a phone number on the manual you can call and they will send you another one. but in the mean time, just look at it and then return it. you are not using the roaster, so it is morally ok. hope this helps
ellen
11/01/10
Ma ma, a fact of retail life; they cannot resell one that has been opened as new, it has to be returned to the manufacturer or sold on clearance. This adds to everyone's cost. The phone number and the manual are available for free on line. Go that route, and keep everyone's store cost down.
norma
11/02/10
BROKEN HANDLE for Rival Electric Roaster Oven
where can I find or order a new handle for my 18qt rival roaster RO180
ellen
11/02/10
Go to the Rival website first.
These are VERY hard to find. You need ther model number and whether it is a top or side handle.
mandi
11/09/10
my sister in law gave me her 16 qt roaster oven when she moved i have never used one before and im not sure how to use it... and ive searched and searched but cant find a manual for it online... i was going to use it for my thanksgiving turkey... my first time ever cooking a turkey on my own.... and if anyone either has one they can tell me how big a turkey it can properly cook and how to use it id really appreciate it....
mandi
11/09/10
forgot to add its the rival 16 qt roaster...
ellen
11/10/10
Get about a 14 pound turkey, and any of the roaster manuals, or read any of my threads on turkey in an electric roaster. Have fun.
lina torralba
11/19/10
please give me instruction how to use my rival roaster. do iput water on the pan or not?
Jean McMasters
11/19/10
Please email me a manual today as I need to cook my turkey today. Nov. 19. 2010
ellen
11/19/10
Lina NO. NO water ever in the bottom pan, discussed several times on this thread.

Jean, use the links above to read the manual on line. I don't have manuals to email, sorry.

delores kerlin
11/22/10
Borrowed the Rival Electric Roaster Oven from a friend, but have no instructions. I'm making a 16 lb. turkey for Thanksgiving and need a manual. Can you help me?
ellen
11/22/10
Yes, Rival now posts its manuals on line at their website. Link is in this thread. Basically, though, preheat 20 minutes, 325 degrees, use a meat thermometer for exact doneness, let stand at least 20 minutes before carving.
Debbie
11/24/10
If anyone need the manuel for a Rival 18 Quart Roaster you can call 1-800-323-9519 rival service. I just called them and gave them the model number and they email me the Manuel.
Rachel
11/24/10
lost manual for rival electric roaster oven
ellen, you are wonderful, I've read all the posts & have gotten ALL my questions answered, just recently was given a electric roaster, have no idea how to use or have a manual, but after reading everything, I feel very confident at cooking my first turkey for thanksgiving for the whole family!! THANK YOU!
Gloria
11/24/10
I have an 22 Quart Roaster and there was a recipe on the box for the turkey someone put the box in the trash and i need that recipe for th holiday turkey does anyone have it or know where i can get it form i have tried Rival web site and it is not listed there
Koalamama
11/24/10
Is a 20 lb turkey in a bag too big to cook in the 16 qt. Rival electric roaster without the roasting pan?
ellen
11/24/10
Gloria, go here:
www.food.com/recipe/perfect-whole-turkey-in-an-electric-roaster-oven-339453

Koalamama, NEVER omit the cooking pan that lines the roaster. Yes, it is probably too big, but you might have gotten lucky on the shape, some a flatter and rounder and will fit. See the same article.

Annie
12/11/10
HI,
how can I use my 8qt.Rival as a crock pot?
what temp should I put it at, and will it cook the cut up chicken.
I'm making chicken soup with lentals and spilt pea?

Thank you..

ellen
12/11/10
Set at 190-200 for low and 290-300 for high.
juliann
12/17/10
I am cooking a whole prime rib roast for christams eve dinner to feed 14 people. I want to use my roaster (20 qt) but forgot how long i should cook it and at what temp. help.....
diane rocklin
02/06/11
Lost manual for hamilton beach 22qt. Roaster Oven
Do you have a manual for 22 qt. roaster? or a telephone number. I am desperate because I lost it.
ellen
02/06/11
Works the same as the rival or Nesco, both of which you can download at the links above.
joyce
06/18/11
have a 17 lb. ham bone-in can you use a cooking bag in roaster? and how long do you think it will take to bake.?
ellen
06/18/11
You can use the cooking bag as long as it does not touch any wall of the roaster. It cuts the cooking time up to 1/4 from the usual.
Loretta
08/08/11
Ellen,

I found the online manual and appreciate the links. You're very patient to keep answering the same questions over and over. I didn't see this already posted. I was wondering if it's possible to cook a whole frozen chicken that hasn't thawed. I have one thawing in the fridge from yesterday that I think will be ok to cook tonight. (I'm going to lower the temp a bit and lengthen the cooking time.)However, I can see myself forgetting to take one out to thaw and wondered if it's possible to cook it directly from the frozen state. Thanks!

ellen
08/09/11
Yes, just as it is safe to cook a turkey from frozen, it is safe to cook a fully frozen bird. See the directions for cooking the turkey from frozen and adapt to the smaller bird. What doesn't work very well is half-thawed.
ellen
10/03/11
Doris, you need to go to the Rival site and download it, or call 1-800-323-9519 rival service. Give them the model number and they email you the Manual.

I deleted your message NEVER post your street address on line, it is not safe.

Susan
11/16/11
Will a 26-pound turkey fit into my Rival 20-quart roaster? I've misplaced the manual!
ellen
11/16/11
Not if you want it fully and safely cooked, The recommended limit is 18-20 pounds. Heat has to be able to circulate and it can't come above the oven, even if the top fits.
Rose Smith
11/21/11
can"t find instructions for roaster need to know if water must alwas be used in bottom of roaster and how much?
ellen
11/21/11
As repeated many times on this thread; NEVER NEVER water in the bottom of the roaster. It is an oven, not a chafing dish.
angie
11/22/11
help
i just got a rival roaster oven and is going to make my truckey for the first in it . how do i put water in the button of the roasting pan. it my first time doing it this way then the onen can you help me out thank you
ellen
11/23/11
Angie, NO WATER in the bottom part of the roaster, ever, as it says in the manual. And you do not need any in the cooking pan itself. Use the rack.
Karla
11/23/11
Hi, I lost the roasting rack for my Rival.... what can use instead? anything?? thanks!
John
11/23/11
How to cook a turkey in my rival roaster oven 17 quart
patty
11/23/11
I lost my instructons on how to use my rival roaster oven please help!
ellen
11/24/11
Karla, cookie rack or rectangular pans turned upside down.

John, discussed at length over and over this and other roaster and turkey threads. Same time and temp as the shortest for the regular oven, preheat the oven, use a rack, don't lift the lid, check with a thermometer. More at eatturkey.com.

Patty use the links given above in this thread or on the other roaster threads to download a new manual.

flynn
11/24/11
Is it safe to eat a Turkey if I forgot to cure the roaster? I just bought it and pre heated it for a half hour on 400 with the liner still in there. Turkey looks fine but I keep seeing people saying it must be cured for at least an hour. Help would be appreciated, thanks.
ellen
11/24/11
Yes safe.
Jerald
11/26/11
Lost nanual for a Rival 20 qt progammable roaster oven.
ellen
11/26/11
Go to the Rival site (link above) and download it.
debbie
12/07/11
Is it possible to reheat 50 baked potatoes wrapped in foil in a 18 qt roaster - they all fit stacked on top of each other, but not sure all will get hot to serve. Or is it better to place all on racks in the oven. For how long @ what temp? Thanks!
ellen
12/07/11
Please see the extensive baked potato bar article. Reheating baked potatoes makes them taste funny- try one of the other methods.
sharon
12/09/11
hamilton roaster
can you cook food in the inner part of the hamilton beach roaster?
ellen
12/09/11
Never use the roaster for cooking without the cookwell in it (the pan the same size that fits in the roaster). You can put a rack in the cookwell and then bake in it like any other oven.
marilyn
12/11/11
how do I get plastic from cooking bag off side of roaster pan?
ellen
12/11/11
Asked on another thread last week. This is why I recommend you not use the bags in roasters. Heat to the lowest possible heat, scrape carefully. If you can't get it off, you can order a new roaster pan from the manufacturer.
rosie
12/13/11
Can't find my manual and need it A.S.A.P
ellen
12/14/11
Download it at the links above.
jeanne smith
12/17/11
how do u clean the trayers that have bar b q & terr sause on them
ellen
12/17/11
Try Dawn Power Scrub spray on.
Angel S.
12/20/11
Please help...So from what I have read thus far I picked up the following...

- My cooking equipment:
18qt Hamilton Beach Roaster oven

- My goal:
Cook a 10 lb. bone-in Rib-Eye Roast.

- Cooking instructions:
1) Pre-heat roaster for 30 mins.
2) Cook for 3 hours (based off 18 min per/lb) at 325*
3) Heat for 15 mins in regular over at 500* to crip the outer part of roast.

It's my first time using this thing and I want to impress my family this weekend. Do the instructions sound right?? Please confirm....thank you much!!!

ellen
12/20/11
Use a meat thermometer! I cook bone in rib roasts only 9-13 minutes per pound, 18 minutes will be way overcooked. Use the temp guide in the beef roasting article for when to take it out- I would use rare if I were doing the oven thing after- let stand 20 minutes at least before carving.

Merry Christmas.

Angel S.
12/20/11
You're awesome Ellen. Thank you so much!!!

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and your family!!

Connie
01/15/12
Thank you so much Ellen. I found exactly what I needed in about 20 seconds. You're a real god send!
Jane
02/19/12
I would like to heat hotdog buns in my roaster, what is the best way to do this so that I don't dry out the buns?
ellen
02/19/12
Wrap in foil. bake in a preheated oven.
mary
03/17/12
How do I cook corn beef and cabbage with red potatoes in. My 20 quart. Roaster
ellen
03/17/12
Read the last section of the St. Patrick's Day food thread.
paul
03/20/12
I am trying to service my freinds roaster and found a link for downloading manuals as pdf files. anyone wanting the link please email me
ellen
03/21/12
Paul, because of the Spam issue, we don't post email addresses on the forum anymore. Maybe you could email me the link (contact link at the bottom of the page) and I could post it for you?
 
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